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Bandalier Talent as a Service Spotlight: Jake Viza & Jake Silverstein

1/13/2021

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Welcome back to our Talent as a Service Spotlight! This week, we’re featuring two of our team members - Jake Viza and Jake Silverstein. They joined our team shortly before the new year, and have been working hard to deliver results for their client amidst the holiday season.

Jake Viza and Jake Silverstein have both had a lot to juggle since joining Des’s team. They work with Project DADO - you may remember them from our past blog post about Christian Finch, and are constantly jumping between calls, training with the Bandalier team, and conversations with DADO’s team about best practices for outreach to their clients. 

Like Christian, Jake Viza and Jake Silverstein joined Bandalier with very little sales experience. Thanks Bandalier’s Sales 101 Bootcamp, they were up and running within a few weeks! Plus, they had the benefit of building on experience by collaborating with Christian and their team lead, Desirée. With tips from Des on how to handle tough gate-keepers and guidance from Christian on talking with decision-makers, they’ve been able to quickly deliver results!

We’re excited to continue working Jake Viza and Jake Silverstein as they develop their sales skills! If you’re interested in learning more about how Bandalier makes SaaS sales outsourcing simple, head over to our website! ​

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Abagael Rudock - Jr. Associate Sales Manager at Bandalier

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Bandalier 'Talent as a Service' Spotlight: Tamia Laptiste

1/6/2021

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Welcome back to our Talent as a Service Spotlight series! For our second feature, we sat down with one of our newer outsourced inside sales team members, Tamia Laptiste, to ask about her experiences. 

Like many of our Talent as a Service programs, Tamia’s sales process is unique. Like most of our team members, she uses the skills she developed through Bandalier University’s Sales 101 training to set appointments for her client. However, rather than scheduling a short meeting with a single decision-maker, she has to find time for an entire team to sit down for a ‘lunch and learn’! Tough as it is to coordinate a meeting for an entire office, Tamia doesn’t let the challenge slow her down - and she’s mentioned that food can be a great motivator! Plus, she leans on her team for guidance. Here’s how she describes it:

“Working on a TaaS program has allowed me to really immerse myself in the idea of kaizen. Working on Lydia’s team, in particular, I have been introduced to a group of individuals who are all highly motivated and talented, which constantly pushes me to better myself. I love the atmosphere that Bandalier has created and I am motivated by my colleagues who consistently show everyone their overwhelming support. I feel especially confident knowing that if I ever need help during my time at Bandalier, I have an experienced group of innovative thinkers available to help me along the way.”

Much as Des and Sheontee teamed up to handle tough gate-keepers, Lydia and Tamia have worked closely to refine Tamia’s strategies. Lydia’s experience with polite persistence and her quiet determination to help her team succeed helped Tamia quickly deliver results for her client. Tamia says that her experiences with Bandalier have changed how she communicates:

“I’ve gained increased confidence in my abilities. I am typically a rather soft-spoken person. However, I have become more assertive and discovered the importance of not only what you say, but how you say it. Each day I never know what to expect and I constantly face new situations that force me to develop new strategies. The greatest gift through this experience is that as I develop these strategies, they are easily transferable and help foster success in my day to day life. I have gained knowledge in an industry that I would otherwise know very little about, which has been an incredible learning experience.”

We’re excited to keep working with Tamia as she continues to refine her outreach strategies! If you’re interested in working with driven salespeople like Tamia, you can learn more about Bandalier by visiting our website. If you’re ready to build a career with Bandalier, you can apply here. We’re excited to hear from you!

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Abagael Rudock - Jr. Associate Sales Manager at Bandalier

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5 Tips on How to be Successful in Inside Sales During the Holiday Season

12/29/2020

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Happy holidays from the Bandalier team! As we settle in before the new year, our outsourced inside sales teams are working hard to reach decision-makers - but with Hanukkah and Christmas behind us and New Year’s ahead, it can be tough to reach people. Here are a handful of tips from our reps on how to find success between the holidays:

  • Acknowledge the holidays. A little rapport can go a long way, especially around this time of year. Folks are looking forward to their vacations while doing their best to reach end-of-year goals. Talking about it makes for a better conversation!
 
  • Use automatic email replies to your advantage. If your prospect lists an alternate contact, try reaching out to that person to see where the conversation leads. Utilize the listed dates to plan your follow-ups, and keep an eye out for new contact numbers.
 
  • Be strategic with your outreach. If you know that someone is out of the office, hold off on contacting them until they return. Some of our team members reach out the day that folks return to the office; others prefer to wait until the next day. Either way, make sure to ask how their time away was!
 
  • Focus on following-up. Try to end conversations rather than starting them. Most companies are trying to wrap up the year and plan for the next, and may not be as open to new ideas as they will be in January. Do what you can to follow-up with folks who are familiar with you and your product.
 
  • Lean on social media. Lots of folks will browse LinkedIn, even when they aren’t in the office - use this time to share great information on your page. If you’re sending messages over LinkedIn, use the holidays to bond a bit before going into the pitch!

What other tips and tricks can a great outsourced sales rep use to stay in touch throughout the holidays? We’d love to hear from you in the comments!

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Abagael Rudock - Jr Associate Sales Manager at Bandalier

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Bandalier 'Talent as a Service' Spotlight: Sheontee Cochrane

12/22/2020

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​It’s time for the first feature in our Talent as a Service series! We’ll be featuring the team members whose talent shines through on these programs. Up first is Sheontee Cochrane!

Sheontee joined our team this summer after receiving a recommendation from a friend. As one of the introverts on our team, Sheontee knew that she would be stepping outside of her comfort zone for this role! With Desirée as her mentor and manager, Sheontee was able to excel quickly. The two built a strong bond, and worked together to continuously deliver stellar results on a tough program. As Sheontee said,

“I love working with Des… she helped me utilize the skills I learned in Bandalier University, and encouraged me to think outside the box, strategize, and test new ideas to improve our  outcomes. I’m an introvert by nature, so I had to learn how to be more outgoing and how to handle rejection, and Bandalier equipped me with the tools I needed to keep working through roadblocks.”

Sheontee has become famous on our team for her persistence - if a prospect asks her to call back, we know she’ll reach out almost daily until she reaches them! If she isn’t reaching prospects, she keeps trying - whether that means calling the same office a few times each day, or reaching out to a hundred different people before lunch, Sheontee is always pushing for better results. She and Des make a deadly duo - with Des’ famous fearlessness and Sheontee’s persistence, these two can reach even the most elusive prospects! Here’s how Sheontee described her growth over the past few months on our team:

“The company values self-improvement, and my team has given me the opportunity for growth. I am more outgoing, and I feel more empowered to embrace who I am - an assertive and strong person who is capable of relying on others when I need to. I am now an embodiment of my better self and working with Bandalier helped me get there. We have a supportive and reliable team - and it goes without saying that it’s refreshing to work in a supportive environment.”

We’re so glad to have Sheontee as a member of our team! If you’re interested in working with driven young professionals like her, head over to our website. We’d love to hear from you - whether you’re a driven young professional looking to build a career with Bandalier or a company hunting for amazing talent, we can help you grow alongside our spectacular salespeople.

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Abagael Rudock - Jr. Associate Sales Manager at Bandalier

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Bandalier Side-Hustle Series Wrap-Up: Entrepreneur Spotlight

12/15/2020

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​Over the last few months, you’ve followed the stories of Bandalier’s hustlers. From coffee to clothing, our team members are working on a little bit of everything! To wrap up the series, we wanted to shine the spotlight on each of our team members’ businesses one more time.

  • Connor Riley runs Two Mulligans, your one-stop-shop for all of your golfing needs! Connor built the business while hunting down his own great gear. Over the last few years, he’s grown from a few extra pieces on one side of his room to an entire rotating inventory. If you’re looking to invest in better golf equipment, you can reach out to Connor by emailing TwoMulligansGolf@gmail.com, reaching out on LinkedIn, or making a purchase directly on Mercari.
 
  • Jake Zall is constantly creating content to build a community of media lovers over at Pop-Corn Heist. As a member of our Sales Ops team, Jake is usually working in the background at Bandalier. When he’s writing for Pop-Corn Heist, he steps into the spotlight. Follow them on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter to join the heist!
 
  • Dylan Smith is one of the owners and coaches at Apex Combat Sports, Binghamton’s premier martial arts academy. They offer classes for folks at all levels of expertise. Whether you’re a seasoned fighter or taking your first steps to get into fighting shape, their community is ready to help you succeed. You can get in touch with Apex and follow them on Facebook and Instagram.
 
  • Jarrod Pine offers comfortable, high-quality athletic gear through Vector Apparel. After hearing his co-workers’ and classmates’ complaints around the athleisure wear that was available, he decided to offer something new. To make your first purchase, head over to Vector Apparel’s website! You can also follow them on Instagram and LinkedIn.
 
  • Teddy Boucard owns and operates Read Rose books in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Teddy and his partner, Elizabeth, founded Read Rose over the summer, and are putting down roots within their community. Read Rose offers books from every genre, from popular reads to rare finds! You can support their store by shopping on their website, or by following them on Facebook and Instagram. 
 
  • Leighton Blackwood owns and operates 2nd Heaven Bubble Tea every Saturday at the Broome County Regional Farmer’s Market! He spent months developing his recipe and building the business with his partner, and they’re excited to keep delivering the best bubble tea in Binghamton! Their drinks are available for delivery via GrubHub and UberEats, and you can connect with 2 Heaven on Facebook. When you try out his tea, make sure to leave a review on Yelp!
 
  • Colin Meagley runs Hustle Bean Coffee, one of the few coffee companies catering to hustlers. With beans roasted in small batches in Buffalo, Hustle Bean delivers the caffeine that we need to keep the grind going. Head over to the website to buy your first bag, and follow them on Instagram for more coffee news.
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We’re delighted to work with so many entrepreneurs! Which business was your favorite to learn about? Let us know in the comments below! Stay tuned for our next blog series highlighting the experiences of our employees working with clients on our Talent as a Service program!

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Abagael Rudock - Jr. Associate Sales Manager at Bandalier

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Outbound Sales Cycles - Part 2: How to Know Whether to Pull Through on an Outbound SDR Program

12/11/2020

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In our last post, we focused on some of the reasons it can take a while for outbound sales campaigns to start showing ROI. 

A natural question for clients to ask, given these constraints, is how to know when to pull the cord on an outbound SDR program. After all, start-ups are often cash constrained - one of the most important factors in their ultimate success is knowing when to cut off a strategy that isn’t working.

Unfortunately, there’s no perfect science here. But managing three years of outbound campaigns for dozens of SaaS clients has given us some helpful heuristics to look for in the early months of a sales campaign. These are some of the questions we ask (along with related KPIs) that help us understand whether success is going to continue eluding us - or whether it could be right around the corner. 

  1. Are we learning by talking to customers? This sounds fuzzy, but tends to be the best predictor of whether we’ll ultimately be able to see success. A big part of the value of outbound sales programs relative to other channels is the customer feedback loop. If someone doesn’t click on an banner ad, it can be difficult to assess the reasons they aren’t interested. The beauty of outbound sales is that - so long as you’re able to reach decision marks - you can get real-time feedback on messaging and product market fit. If we’re not able to reach significant numbers of prospects within a client’s persona over an extended period of time (say, a few months) after trying multiple channels, that’s usually a sign that we’re not going to be able to generate ROI or reap some of the other less tangible benefits of outbound sales. In those cases, another channel might be a better area of focus. KPIs we look for: what percentage of the time are we reaching decision makers and generating responses vs. an average campaign?
  2. Does the pain point exist? We generally begin our outbound sales ‘touches’ (calls, e-mails, social media outreach) not by selling anything, but by qualifying pain. “How do you do this thing currently? Out of curiosity, how’s that working out?”. In the case of the vast majority of campaigns we run, our reps can clearly glean early on that a pain point exists in the market: decision makers talk their ears off about how hellish, say, managing budgets in Excel can be. In those cases, our job is just to find the messaging that convinces prospects the product we’re selling can solve for their pain point. There are rare instances, though, in which we’re selling skiing equipment on the beach - that is, we’re selling products to folks that clearly have no pain point that would require it. In those cases, outbound sales will not help solve the distribution problem and can easily become a money pit, since there is no product market fit. KPIs we look for: e-mail reply rates, call length, number of ‘interested, in follow-up’ prospects.
  3. Are the numbers trending in the right direction, or have we hit a wall? Early results vary massively on sales campaigns. There are cases where we’ll see multiple demos scheduled in the first day of outreach, and other cases where it can take a month or longer. In these latter cases, a big part of what our strategy teams look at is trendlines. Are our DM reach rates improving (that is, are we reaching more decision makers than we were a month ago)? Are calls lasting longer? Are we generating more interest, even if it isn’t yet resulting in meetings being scheduled? Where we’re seeing an uptick, it’s a good sign that tweaks we’re making are having an impact and that we can expect numbers to continue going up. If we’ve hit a wall, on the other hand - that is, if we can’t find any data trending in a positive direction - that’s usually indicative of a campaign that has a structural barrier to success. KPIs we look for: trendlines across all metrics.
  4. Does this look like other outbound sales campaigns that have seen success? Lastly, and particularly when we’re evaluating a campaign early on, we’ll look for industry comps. Some industries, and in particular certain price points below $10,000 in annual contract value, aren’t a great fit for outbound sales. Are there similar companies selling similarly priced products that have seen success with outbound sales, or that employ a lot of outbound salespeople? If so, that’s a good sign that with more tweaking we can get to an ROI-positive campaign. If the campaign isn’t working and we’re among the only players in an industry to utilize outbound sales, that’s often a good sign that others might have already been down this path and failed.
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Bandalier Side-Hustle Series: Stay Caffeinated Around the Clock with Hustle Bean Coffee!

12/9/2020

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​As our Side-Hustle Series winds down, we’re featuring one of the products that keeps us going - coffee! This week, we sat down to chat with Colin Meagley, co-founder of Hustle Bean Coffee.

Like many of our team members, Colin is a student of Binghamton University’s School of Management. While he was stuck inside over the summer, Colin took some time to reflect on his passions. As a hustler and coffee lover, he realized that no one was catering to his network. As he describes it, “I really enjoyed coffee and the culture around hustle and entrepreneurship. But no brands were targeting that market. No one was making coffee just for us.”

Colin got to work alongside his roommate and co-founder, reaching out to suppliers and manufacturers to build their coffee company. Together, they found high-quality beans, hand-roasted in small batches in Buffalo, NY.  Even though Colin has so much on his plate, he has no issue juggling his roles as a student, salesperson, and entrepreneur - in fact, he said that working remotely has made it even easier for him to balance his time:

“I can go immediately from work to class to managing my business - I’m not losing 15 minutes or more traveling between my home, school, and work.”

Colin credits Bandalier with their quick success in launching the business, too:

“Bandalier made it much easier for me to communicate with other businesses. Since I’ve worked with business-to-business marketing it was no problem to get in touch with different suppliers and manufacturers for our beans and packaging. I’ve also been lucky to keep growing my network, connecting with people over 2 commonalities - entrepreneurship and love of coffee. As you get to know people, they introduce you to people they know who love the same things.”

If you’re looking to step up your coffee game, check out Hustle Bean’s website for tips on making your daily brew - Colin uses an AeroPress. Regardless of how you make it, Hustle Bean’s Brazilian roast makes a “darn good” cup of coffee, according to our CEO, Jeremy Ruch. Head over to the Hustle Bean website to get your coffee today, and use the code “BANDALIER” for a 15% discount on your purchase!

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Abagael Rudock - Jr. Associate Sales Manager at Bandalier

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Outbound Sales Cycles - Part 1: How Long Do Outsourced Inside Sales Programs Take to Generate Results?

12/4/2020

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Start-ups, by definition, need to move quickly. Companies that have raised capital to prove out an operating model only have so long to prove product-market fit, and are under significant amounts of pressure to demonstrate to investors that there’s a healthy and growing market of customers that need what they are selling. Many are optimizing for the all-critical LTV : CAC ratio: that is, how many dollars in lifetime revenue they are generating for each dollar spent on marketing / sales.

No surprise, then, that prospective clients regularly ask us how long our outsourced inside sales programs will take to generate results. Unfortunately, it’s a question that is impossible to answer in one broad stroke: beyond the obvious role that luck plays (particularly early on with smaller sample sizes), there’s a significant number of variables inherent to each product and industry that impact the pacing of results. 

One of the most significant of these is the length of a client’s outbound sales cycle. We sell SaaS products ranging in average sales cycle from one week to up to a full year or more. Because spend on our inside sales programs is the same irrespective of sales cycle length, clients that have sales cycles of several months or longer will often find they are significantly underwater in the early days of an outbound sales campaign - even in a case where it is performing well. This is made even more complicated by the fact that inbound sales cycles aren’t always the same as outbound sales cycles. 

At Bandalier, for example, we find that clients who find our services via search engine or referral tend to close significantly faster than those we prospect, because they are already actively interested in launching an outbound sales program and have a timeline for doing so. This makes measuring the relative effectiveness of the different channels complicated: if, as is often the case, a client we prospected a year ago comes back to us now and launches a large program, it can significantly change the performance of our outbound SDR program relative to other channels.  

Let’s explore this with a specific example. Below is an illustrative case of an LTV : CAC ratio for an imaginary client that has a 6 month sales cycle (which is on the lengthier side, but not unusual for SaaS clients) selling a $2,500 / mo SaaS product.

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In this case, for six months, the program isn’t generating revenue at all: the CEO and investors are probably getting nervous, looking at a program that has cost over $40,000 with nothing to show for it. Deals start trickling in once the first six-month cycle has passed, but not a pace fast enough to recover the investment. But with results compounding month-over-month (since each deal is generating incremental monthly recurring revenue), the program slowly claws its way to profitability. Still, even 10 months into the program, we’ve barely generated enough total revenue to cover the costs of the program. Investors are looking at competing channels, like search engine marketing, and seeing significantly higher ROI. In many cases, they might decide to reinvest their marketing dollars away from outbound sales. 

But the year 2 results show why that would be a mistake. Monthly recurring revenue continues to build over the course of the year, and by mid-way through the year, we’ve crossed a 3x return on cumulative marketing dollars invested. We end the year above a 5:1 CAC / LTV ratio - enough to double down significantly on the investment. Meanwhile, other channels might find a natural cap on results, since there’s a much smaller number of folks actively searching for the product online and significant competition with other vendors bidding on the same digital ad space. By the end of year 2, outbound sales appears to be the most profitable marketing channel available.

Of course, this begs the question: if it can take that long to show significant ROI, what are some early signals we can look to to ascertain whether the program is worth continuing to invest in? More on that in Part 2, to follow next week. ​
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Bandalier Side-Hustle Series: Send Your Taste Buds to Paradise with 2nd Heaven Bubble Tea!

12/2/2020

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Welcome back to our Side-Hustle Series! This week we’re featuring Leighton Blackwood and his bubble tea business, 2nd Heaven! You may know Leighton from past social media features - he’s been a key member of our Sales Ops team since joining Bandalier in February of 2018.
 
Leighton has always had an interest in entrepreneurship but gives credit to Bandalier for inspiring him. As he describes it,

 “A great part of the inspiration to build my own business has come from watching Bandalier grow. When I first joined the company, it wasn’t even a year old and we were a handful of people in a small office room. It’s been an amazing journey. Now, there’s an active entrepreneur community that exists within Bandalier. The opportunity to learn and grow with other people on similar paths as me is great, and I am excited to network with other entrepreneurs!”

Between his work at Bandalier and his experiences as a student at Binghamton University’s School of Management, he has a diverse knowledge base to work with. As a frequent diner at BU’s Marketplace, Leighton noticed a conspicuous lack of specialty drinks:

“Coming from NYC, bubble tea has been one of my favorite drinks. In Binghamton offerings of the drink are limited both in quality and location, especially for students without convenient transportation. I identified bubble tea as a great drink that many students like me with a taste for it would benefit from having access to it on campus.”

Once he recognized the need, Leighton reached out to the university to propose a new business. Inspired by the success of Chick’n’Bap, he suggested the development of another student-founded and student-run business. After a year of work with his friend Darren Shi, things didn’t quite pan out for an on-campus business. Business plan in hand, Leighton started exploring other avenues to bring bubble tea to the Binghamton area.

“We placed a lot of work into our concept, especially in creating our recipes from scratch. Our current recipes are a result of about 7 months and hundreds of cups of data-driven trials where we tested everything from the perfect temperature to brew tea to the perfect recipe for cooking boba. Each trial went through a rigorous process of taste testing via focus groups and surveys. With all the work that we put in and my drive to explore entrepreneurship, we decided to keep pushing towards a new launch, this time at the local farmers market on a small scale to test the market.”

After meeting with the managers of the Farmer’s Market in August, Leighton went to work obtaining the licenses and funding he needed to start serving tea. He sold his first cup of Bubble Tea in October, and though he admits that there “have been growing pains… it’s been an incredibly rewarding experience!”


You can catch Leighton every Saturday at the Broome County Regional Farmer’s Market every Saturday from 9-1. If you don’t want to make the trek out to Front Street, you can also get 2 Heaven’s bubble tea delivered via Grubhub or UberEats! You can also connect with 2nd Heaven on Facebook and Yelp. ​

Author

Abagael Rudock - Inside Sales Associate at Bandalier

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Bandalier's Team Members are Thankful for...

11/25/2020

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​As our team makes their last few calls before preparing for their Thanksgiving celebrations, we took a moment to ask them what they’re most thankful for this year! Here’s what a few of our team members had to say:

Jasmine said “I'm thankful for the ability to work remotely and do school online this year. I would never have been able to balance full-time grad credits and full-time work had it not been all remote.”

Romilly is “thankful to work for a company that values my opinions and wellbeing.”

Laura says that is “... thankful for Bandalier! It sounds a little silly, but I lost my job September and I had no idea what I was going to do. I was really concerned with how I was going to work when my daughter wasn't in school. To have the ability to work from home as a mom during this crazy year has been a HUGE blessing for me and our family.”

Kennedy is “thankful that Bandalier gave me the opportunity to join a strong team in a time where millions of people are struggling to find jobs. I'm excited to grow within this company and hope everyone enjoys the holidays!”

Maria says “I'm seriously thankful for Bandalier, because I've never worked for a company with such a positive vibe that boosts each other up as we do! And, considering the state of the world right now, having a place to work like this is really great and comforting.”

Lydia, one of our ASMs, says that she is “grateful for a warm home, my cat, and the new season of The Crown on Netflix. And The Sims. And the Great British Bake-off.”

Bandalier is thankful to all of the team members who have helped us survive and thrive throughout the tumult of 2020. Whether you’re spending the holidays learning about the history of Thanksgiving or just enjoying a great meal, we’re wishing everyone a happy and healthy holiday season! We’ll see you all next week for the newest post in our Side Hustle Series.

Author

 Abagael Rudock - Inside Sales Associate at Bandalier

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